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Podcast #146 – John Toussaint, MD, “Potent Medicine”

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john toussaint sm Podcast #146   John Toussaint, MD, Potent Medicine leanEpisode #146 is a discussion with a returning guest (#54, #62, #72), John Toussaint, MD, the CEO of the ThedaCare Center for Healthcare Value. Today, we’re talking about his latest book, recently released, called Potent Medicine: The Collaborative Cure for Healthcare. John talks about the three aspects of his collaborative cure: patient-centered care redesign, transparency, and payment for outcomes. A lot of the discussion follows on my conversation with Dean Gruner, MD in Podcast #144, talking about the experiments with “Accountable Care Organizations” at ThedaCare and other organizations.

John will also be speaking at the upcoming Lean Healthcare Transformation Summit, this June in Minneapolis. We hope to see you there!

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For a link to this episode, refer people to  www.leanblog.org/146.

For earlier episodes, visit the  main Podcast page, which includes information on how to subscribe via RSS or via Apple iTunes.

You can use the player (use the VCR-type controls) at the top of the post to listen to a streaming version of the podcast (or click here for the streaming audio and RSS subscription). The streaming link is faster for one-time listening (hardly any delay to start listening). Or you can use the download link to put it on your iPod or other


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