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Podcast #238 – Kevin Cahill, on his Grandfather, W. Edwards Deming

kevin cahillEpisode #238 is a conversation with somebody I’ve wanted to talk with for a long time, Kevin Cahill. He is the executive director of the W. Edwards Deming Institute.

He’s also a grandson of Dr. Deming!

Kevin played an instrumental role in getting NBC to publicly release the 1980 documentary, “If Japan Can, Why Can’t We?” that featured Dr. Deming (see my blog posts about it).  We talk about that in the podcast, along with his other recollections of Dr. Deming and how he watched the original NBC airing with him.

We also discuss his reflections on learning the Deming philosophy and his attempts to utilize the ideas in his career (and how challenging that can be when it flies in the face of the prevailing business culture). It was a really fun discussion and I hope you enjoy it. If you have follow up questions for Kevin, please post a comment, as I’m sure we can do another podcast in the near future.

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Mark Graban's passion is creating a better, safer, more cost effective healthcare system for patients and better workplaces for all. Mark is a consultant, author, and speaker in the "Lean healthcare" methodology. He is author of the Shingo Award-winning books Lean Hospitals and Healthcare Kaizen, as well as The Executive Guide to Healthcare Kaizen. His most recent project is an book titled Practicing Lean that benefits the Louise H. Batz Patient Safety Foundation, where Mark is a board member. Mark is also the VP of Improvement & Innovation Services for the technology company KaiNexus.

2 Comments on "Podcast #238 – Kevin Cahill, on his Grandfather, W. Edwards Deming"

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  1. Andrew Bishop

    It was deeply moving to hear Kevin Cahill courageously reflect on the mistakes he made when he moved into a management role. Dr. Deming would be proud!
    A friend from Toyota told me once “… the ability to reflect honestly may be the most important thing that sets Toyota apart.” Leaders and managers would do well to learn from Cahill’s example.

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