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Podcast #235 – Sam MacPherson, The Green Beret Way to the Toyota Way & Lean Leadership

_Toyota Kata Podcast Logo copyCheck out my new podcast series, the Toyota Kata Podcast, or “KataCast” for short, now with 5 episodes.

Now back to our usual podcast series

sam macphersonToday’s guest is Sam MacPherson (@LeanLeaderWay), the co-founder of the Lean Leadership Academy and the founder of The Summit on Lean Leadership, a partnership with Lean Frontiers. As I mentioned the other day, Sam helped introduce me to the streaming video platform. So, since he was good with the technology, we did a live streaming conversation that I recorded as this podcast. An experiment… a small test of change. If you’d rather watch the conversation instead of listening, click here for a YouTube recording or scroll down on this page.

I’ve recently met Sam and I think his background is just fascinating… alternating time between industry and the Army, serving in the special forces (Green Berets), going back to industry and practicing Lean, and then going back into the military after 9/11. He has a very unique perspective on the overlap and similarities between military leadership and decision making processes and Lean thinking.

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In this episode, we discussed topics including:

  • Differences between Special Forces (The Green Berets) and the rest of the military
  • Similarities between “The Green Beret Way” and The Toyota Way – and what’s shockingly similar
  • Command and Control vs. Leadership
  • The Military Decision Making Process
  • “Commander’s Intent”
  • Misconceptions regarding military leadership and industry leadership
  • Lean transformation – your current leadership style and skills wont cut it!

Here is a YouTube video of our live chat:

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Mark Graban's passion is creating a better, safer, more cost effective healthcare system for patients and better workplaces for all. Mark is a consultant, author, and speaker in the "Lean healthcare" methodology. He is author of the Shingo Award-winning books Lean Hospitals and Healthcare Kaizen, as well as The Executive Guide to Healthcare Kaizen. His most recent project is an book titled Practicing Lean that benefits the Louise H. Batz Patient Safety Foundation, where Mark is a board member. Mark is also the VP of Improvement & Innovation Services for the technology company KaiNexus.

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