Podcast #110, Dr. Jack Billi, Lean and Medicine

Episode #110 is a chat with Dr. Jack Billi from the University of Michigan Health System and Medical School.

Here, we talk about their lean work and how Dr. Billi works with physicians to engage them in lean, tying lean problem solving methods, including the A3 approach, to the scientific method and medical thinking. Dr. Billi talks about the right approach to the lean concept of “standardized work” in a way that works for medicine and complex patient situations.

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More about Dr. Billi,  Associate Dean for Clinical Affairs, Medical School and Associate Vice President, Medical Affairs.

Dr. Billi is Professor of Internal Medicine and Medical Education. He leads the Michigan Quality System, the University of Michigan Health System’s unified approach to improve quality, safety, efficiency, appropriateness and service using lean tools and philosophy. Dr. Billi’s research and leadership interests are in health services delivery and the use of community consortia for quality improvement. He is active on statewide and regional groups affecting quality of care, pay-for-performance and public reporting. He chairs the Michigan State Medical Society’s Committee on Quality, Efficiency and Economics and the Essential Benefit Design Work Group and is a member of MSMS’s Board of Directors. Dr. Billi co-chairs the Medical Director Committee for the Michigan Quality Improvement Consortium which develops and disseminates evidence-based practice guidelines used by Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan and 15 other health plans representing over six million members.

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Partial Transcript:

Jack, I want to thank you for taking time out of your day and your busy schedule to talk today. Thanks for joining us.

Dr. Jack Billi: I’m really delighted to be here. I’ve learned a lot through working with the Healthcare Value Leaders Network and the work that you’ve done, so I’m delighted to chat.

Mark: Thanks, and it’s a pleasure to have you as part of the network and here today, so I’m wondering if you could start by introducing yourself to the listeners who you are, what your roles are there at the university.

Dr. Billi: Sure, my name is Jack Billi, I’m a general internist. I’ve been at the university for 33 years. I’ve spent a lot of that time as Associate Dean for Clinical Affairs in the medical school. I also have a role in the health system to complement that.

My most important work for the last five years has been what might be called the chief engineer or the senior deployment leader for the Lean transformation for the University of Michigan Health System.

Mark: I’m curious also, in terms of introductions, from your career as a physician and a leader in the university and the health system, what was your first exposure to Lean?

You’re there in Michigan. You have the auto industry. You’ve got a lot of well-known Lean people within the university. Where did your first exposure come to? Maybe share, if you can, some of your initial reactions to Lean from your medical background.

Dr. Billi: I’ve been involved in problem solving in various administrative roles for the central administration of the health system for many years, but had no formal model or role. It was about seven years ago that Gary Kaplan, the CEO of Virginia Mason who’s an alumni of the university of Michigan, was invited in to give a talk about the use of Lean thinking at Virginia Mason.

That captivated me. I went to dinner with him that night and we walked across the street to Border’s Bookstore. I bought a copy of “Lean Thinking” by Jim Womack. I have never looked back since that time.

It made so much sense to me to try and bring a much more comprehensive model to our problem solving, instead of having people all using their own home grown intuitive models, some really not very robust for solving problems.

It made a lot of sense for us to pick a consistent problem solving model across the health system. We’ve been working on that pretty intently for the last five years.

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Mark Graban's passion is creating a better, safer, more cost effective healthcare system for patients and better workplaces for all. Mark is a consultant, author, and speaker in the "Lean healthcare" methodology. He is author of the Shingo Award-winning books Lean Hospitals and Healthcare Kaizen, as well as The Executive Guide to Healthcare Kaizen. His most recent project is an book titled Practicing Lean that benefits the Louise H. Batz Patient Safety Foundation, where Mark is a board member. Mark is also the VP of Improvement & Innovation Services for the technology company KaiNexus.


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