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My guest for episode #167 is Clare Crawford-Mason, the producer of the landmark 1980 NBC documentary that featured W. Edwards Deming, “If Japan Can Do It, Why Can't We?” You can view the documentary here.
I was fortunate to meet Clare and her husband Bob back in 2007 or so when I was teaching a Lean healthcare seminar near their home in Washington, DC. Clare and Bob led the efforts to create the “Deming Library” video series. They also created the PBS special “Good News: How Hospitals Heal Themselves” and the companion book The Nun and the Bureaucrat.
We've talked for years about doing this podcast and I'm glad to finally being able to share this with you. Early in the podcast, Clare talks about meeting Dr. Deming and the production of documentary, which is a fascinating story and glimpse into his personality and work.
Show notes and links:
- Atul Gawande MD article: “Testing, Testing”
- Deming Institute
- Time piece on “Why Healthcare Costs are Killing Us”
- The Nun and the Bureaucrat/Good News…How Hospitals Heal Themselves Book/DVD Set via Amazon
For a link to this episode, refer people to www.leanblog.org/167.
The documentary:
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Mark, this was a brilliant and very important podcast! Thanks for doing this, and thank Clare for sharing her thoughts. I found Clare’s insights and comments to be profound: we need to see systems, the linkage between western and eastern thinking, we need to think more “this and that” and not “either/or”. Her observations about how congress behaves (do not stay in Washington to get to know each other) is very insightful and important . Mike
Thanks, I will be sure to pass your comments on to Clare.
Thank you Mark; a delight to hear this fantastic interview with a living legend. Deming’s wisdom remains timeless and transcendent and Clare’s uncanny ability to distill and enhance our understanding and application of it in our lives and work adds to the fire of hope for humanity.