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LeanBlog Podcast #63 – David “Zuma Dogg” Saltsburg, L.A. Mayoral Candidate

zumaI have a very special guest today… it's a very spur of the moment podcast with L.A. mayoral candidate, David “Zuma Dogg” Saltsburg. This went from email, to phone call, to podcast all in a few hours.

He is running on a platform is using Dr. W. Edwards Deming's 14 points for management. It's very interesting listening — David paid his own way to a Dr. Deming 4-day seminar in Houston in 1991 and it changed his life. He's talking about Dr. Deming on TV and all the media — what a great service to Dr. Deming and hopefully to the residents of Los Angeles. Check out my earlier blog post with him and his videos.

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  1. Mark Graban says

    From one geek to another (nice analogy)… hope you win the election and shake up politics as usual. Good luck.

  2. Mark Graban says

    From the LA Times, yikes, this would really be no way to react to Dr. Deming’s ideas being mocked (and why would someone mock Dr. Deming, unless they weren’t sure why Saltsburg constantly talks about him?)


    Police question L.A. mayoral candidate on alleged death threat
    David ‘Zuma Dogg’ Saltsburg is taken to a police station, where he is asked about a complaint filed by fellow candidate Craig X Rubin. Saltsburg says he didn’t make a threat.
    By Phil Willon and David Zahniser
    February 27, 2009
    Police questioned a Los Angeles mayoral candidate Thursday on whether he made a death threat against another candidate.

    David “Zuma Dogg” Saltsburg — one of nine contenders trying to unseat Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa — was met by officers from the Los Angeles Police Department when he arrived for a debate at Claude Pepper Senior Center on La Cienega Boulevard.

    Police sources said he was taken to the Wilshire Division station and asked about comments he allegedly aimed at candidate Craig X Rubin.

    In a brief interview with The Times, Saltsburg denied any wrongdoing, but confirmed that he had been questioned and released.

    Rubin, a pastor at the Family Church in Pasadena, said Saltsburg called him at home Thursday morning and left a message threatening to kill him if he showed up at the debate later in the day.

    Rubin said he believes it all began during a forum at UCLA on Wednesday when Saltsburg stormed out. Saltsburg apparently thought that Rubin and another candidate were mocking his comments embracing W. Edwards Deming’s 14-point management philosophy.

    “I don’t know where the anger came from,” Rubin said.

    Rubin called police and officers came to his home in the San Fernando Valley, where he filed a formal complaint.

    “As a pastor, I felt kind of conflicted about it,” Rubin said. “You know, turn the other check. But I really did feel threatened.”

    Saltsburg denied leaving a threatening message for Rubin. “Did I say that [stuff] he said I said? The answer is absolutely not,” he said. “I guess anybody can say anything in an open political forum, and beyond that, no comment.””

  3. Mark Graban says

    Saltsburg has denied that the events happened as reported in the news.

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