Podcast #224 – Mike Grogan, Lean and Mentoring


My guest for episode #224 of my podcast is a returning guest, Mike Grogan. About two years ago, we talked about his Lean work in Tanzanian healthcare, in episode #182.

Mike is an international trainer, coach, and speaker, who works with successful but overwhelmed management teams, to help them understand the technical and behavioral elements of Lean leadership, so that they can realize a culture of constant and never-ending improvement in their organization.

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In this podcast, our discussion includes topics such as:

  • How did Mike's work wrap up in Tanzania? What was accomplished and how were things left? What's next for them?
  • Mike recently wrote on the “Planet Lean” website about mentoring… he discusses the mentoring relationship that he had with Dr. Brenda D'mello .
  • What did Mike learn about mentoring?
  • What did he learn about Lean and about himself through mentoring?
  • Has Mike experienced any mentoring failures?

Mike also turns the tables and asks me about my experiences mentoring others and being mentored myself. This episode is as much of a conversation as it is an interview. We hope you enjoy it.

You can read Mike's full bio here via his consulting website.

For a link to this episode, refer people to www.leanblog.org/224.

For earlier episodes of my podcast, visit the main Podcast page, which includes information on how to subscribe via RSS or via Apple Podcasts.  You can also subscribe and listen via Stitcher.

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Mark Graban
Mark Graban is an internationally-recognized consultant, author, and professional speaker, and podcaster with experience in healthcare, manufacturing, and startups. Mark's new book is The Mistakes That Make Us: Cultivating a Culture of Learning and Innovation. He is also the author of Measures of Success: React Less, Lead Better, Improve More, the Shingo Award-winning books Lean Hospitals and Healthcare Kaizen, and the anthology Practicing Lean. Mark is also a Senior Advisor to the technology company KaiNexus.


  1. This episode really captures the essence of being in Mike’s presence and much of who he is. I am immensely blessed to have gotten to know Mike and learned from him while on a tour of CCBRT in Dar Es Salaam. At the time I was also working as a lean practitioner in African healthcare. Mike helped show my director and I what “good” progress toward lean looks like in the context of African healthcare.

    As a mentor, Mike is like the Mississippi River, except flowing with lava instead of water. His knowledge and ability are deep and wide, and his thinking and leadership demeanor are consistent so you always know where he’s coming from and why. His current of influence picks you up and brings you along in his direction without bowling you over. His passion for building people and organizations up is so apparent that when you are around him you get ignited by his person and what he is doing.

    During the short week I was in Dar, I simply wanted to sit at his feet and soak up the constant stream of wisdom he would spout off, but he was vigilant to not give me all the answers. He made me think for myself and helped me learn to see things he saw plainly. Mike changed the way I go about change management and leadership. I am blessed to consider him a mentor, even if he is on the other side of the world.


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