Conversation Between John Shook & @EricRies on Putting the #Lean in #LeanStartup

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The Thanksgiving weekend was a great opportunity to catch up on some reading and viewing that had accumulated in my browser and inbox.

One thing I really enjoyed was a conversation (in advance of next week's Lean Startup conference) between Eric Ries and LEI's John Shook.

If you're not a “Lean Startup” person, I think you'll find this to be a nice summary of some of John's early experiences with Toyota and NUMMI. John and Eric also discuss Lean culture and management principles that would be applicable for folks in healthcare, manufacturing, or any industry.

Click below to view the video:

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Or listen to the audio via SoundCloud (below) or iTunes:

You can check out the whole webcast series, as well.

I'm speaking in a breakout session at the conference next Monday. I'll post a bit of a preview of the talk here on Friday… I hope you'll come to the talk if you're attending, as I'll be talking about “Kaizen” (continuous improvement) and “respect for people” in healthcare, but in a way that will hopefully be relevant and helpful to people in startups.


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Mark Graban
Mark Graban is an internationally-recognized consultant, author, and professional speaker, and podcaster with experience in healthcare, manufacturing, and startups. Mark's latest book is The Mistakes That Make Us: Cultivating a Culture of Learning and Innovation, a recipient of the Shingo Publication Award. He is also the author of Measures of Success: React Less, Lead Better, Improve More, Lean Hospitals and Healthcare Kaizen, and the anthology Practicing Lean, previous Shingo recipients. Mark is also a Senior Advisor to the technology company KaiNexus.

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