Podcast #148 – Naida Grunden & Charles Hagood on “Lean-Led Design”

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Episode #148 is a conversation with a returning guest, Naida Grunden (previous episode) and her co-author Charles Hagood (of Healthcare Performance Partners), talking about their new book Lean-Led Hospital Design: Creating the Efficient Hospital of the Future. It’s an outstanding book and I was happy to endorse it, as did John Toussaint, MD and many others.

In the podcast, we talk about what lean-led hospital design entails, including getting staff involved, how to tie processes and space together, and how to collaborate with architects and construction companies to build space and processes that best serve the patients and healthcare professionals.

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Mark Graban's passion is creating a better, safer, more cost effective healthcare system for patients and better workplaces for all. Mark is a consultant, author, and speaker in the "Lean healthcare" methodology. He is author of the Shingo Award-winning books Lean Hospitals and Healthcare Kaizen, as well as The Executive Guide to Healthcare Kaizen. His most recent project is an eBook titled Practicing Lean that benefits the Louise H. Batz Patient Safety Foundation, where Mark is a board member. Mark is also the VP of Improvement & Innovation Services for the technology company KaiNexus.

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  1. David Sheedy says:

    Mark:
    It was great to find your blog and podcast from Naida and Charles. I recognized Naida’s project description at the begining of interview as the work we did for the Monroe Clinic in Wisconsin. I was the managing principal for the project at Monroe and was able to work closely with HPP’s staff on the project. I ordered the book to check it out. If you are looking for an architectural firm that has embedded lean thinking into our processes and has experence, please reach out to us. In the meantime I will stay connectoed to your site. thanks
    Dave Sheedy
    Kahler Slater

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