Comments on: No Rx for Lean http://www.leanblog.org/2009/10/no-rx-for-lean_07/ Mark Graban's leanblog.org - Lean Healthcare, Lean Thinking, Lean Manufacturing, Toyota Production System Thu, 09 Feb 2012 02:40:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jamie Flinchbaugh http://www.leanblog.org/2009/10/no-rx-for-lean_07/#comment-5623 Jamie Flinchbaugh Fri, 09 Oct 2009 01:39:16 +0000 http://leanblog.bigbigdesign.net/2009/10/no-rx-for-lean/#comment-5623 Thank you everyone for your comments. I feel like more and more people are catching on to this point over the past few years, but it is still a rampant problem of trying to copy one another's roadmaps. In nothing else, be original. <br /><br />Jamie Thank you everyone for your comments. I feel like more and more people are catching on to this point over the past few years, but it is still a rampant problem of trying to copy one another's roadmaps. In nothing else, be original.

Jamie

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]]> By: Dean Bliss http://www.leanblog.org/2009/10/no-rx-for-lean_07/#comment-5622 Dean Bliss Thu, 08 Oct 2009 13:24:18 +0000 http://leanblog.bigbigdesign.net/2009/10/no-rx-for-lean/#comment-5622 Great points by all. I can't count all the times I've been asked about the "formula" or the "recipe" for "becoming Lean". It's a daily learning experience with no end point, which is tough for people to understand and accept, especially those in senior leadership. Our challenge is to teach the philosophy AND the tools, and not let the tools become the story. Great points by all. I can't count all the times I've been asked about the "formula" or the "recipe" for "becoming Lean". It's a daily learning experience with no end point, which is tough for people to understand and accept, especially those in senior leadership. Our challenge is to teach the philosophy AND the tools, and not let the tools become the story.

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]]> By: Mark Welch http://www.leanblog.org/2009/10/no-rx-for-lean_07/#comment-5619 Mark Welch Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:31:42 +0000 http://leanblog.bigbigdesign.net/2009/10/no-rx-for-lean/#comment-5619 Excellent points in this article, Jamie. I think the hardest thing to consider is that, when trying to adjust a lean effort to fit culture, where is the tipping point between Lean and what Mark G. calls "L.A.M.E.?" Yes, this is probably a gray area with no real tipping point, but each organization has to wrestle with the degree to which they truly want to engrain themselves in Lean. I've become pretty zealous the past few years with the more I learn, and it gets harder each day for me to accept marginal lean. Excellent points in this article, Jamie. I think the hardest thing to consider is that, when trying to adjust a lean effort to fit culture, where is the tipping point between Lean and what Mark G. calls "L.A.M.E.?" Yes, this is probably a gray area with no real tipping point, but each organization has to wrestle with the degree to which they truly want to engrain themselves in Lean. I've become pretty zealous the past few years with the more I learn, and it gets harder each day for me to accept marginal lean.

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]]> By: Anonymous http://www.leanblog.org/2009/10/no-rx-for-lean_07/#comment-5618 Anonymous Wed, 07 Oct 2009 15:00:33 +0000 http://leanblog.bigbigdesign.net/2009/10/no-rx-for-lean/#comment-5618 I agree completely. Lean is about problem solving. <br /><br />I would say that "follow the recipe" behavior is a result of lack of knowledge, but it is a great way to learn. Most leaders new to lean will not impliment lean without the recipe. It can be a good place to start and give people a sense of comfort from the unknown. <br /><br />Without the perscription where does a company new to lean start? Maybe the perscription is the standardized work for creating lean thinkers. I agree completely. Lean is about problem solving.

I would say that "follow the recipe" behavior is a result of lack of knowledge, but it is a great way to learn. Most leaders new to lean will not impliment lean without the recipe. It can be a good place to start and give people a sense of comfort from the unknown.

Without the perscription where does a company new to lean start? Maybe the perscription is the standardized work for creating lean thinkers.

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]]> By: Rick Foreman http://www.leanblog.org/2009/10/no-rx-for-lean_07/#comment-5616 Rick Foreman Wed, 07 Oct 2009 13:41:18 +0000 http://leanblog.bigbigdesign.net/2009/10/no-rx-for-lean/#comment-5616 I agree 100% with the observation. Due to every organization being different (variation) there is not a simplistic 12 step program for lean recovery. We have 4 manufacturing plants and 10 sales offices. Same company but the past management philosophies and geographical locations have established different cultures, which require different approaches. I agree 100% with the observation. Due to every organization being different (variation) there is not a simplistic 12 step program for lean recovery. We have 4 manufacturing plants and 10 sales offices. Same company but the past management philosophies and geographical locations have established different cultures, which require different approaches.

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]]> By: Jamie Flinchbaugh http://www.leanblog.org/2009/10/no-rx-for-lean_07/#comment-5615 Jamie Flinchbaugh Wed, 07 Oct 2009 13:30:23 +0000 http://leanblog.bigbigdesign.net/2009/10/no-rx-for-lean/#comment-5615 I love the Marshall quote - thanks for sharing.<br /><br />Jamie I love the Marshall quote – thanks for sharing.

Jamie

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]]> By: David http://www.leanblog.org/2009/10/no-rx-for-lean_07/#comment-5614 David Wed, 07 Oct 2009 13:20:49 +0000 http://leanblog.bigbigdesign.net/2009/10/no-rx-for-lean/#comment-5614 "No one ever won a battle by frantically trying to remember what someone else once did in some vaguely similar situation"<br /><br />--from a 1930s military handbook, edited by George Marshall "No one ever won a battle by frantically trying to remember what someone else once did in some vaguely similar situation"

–from a 1930s military handbook, edited by George Marshall

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]]> By: Laura http://www.leanblog.org/2009/10/no-rx-for-lean_07/#comment-5613 Laura Wed, 07 Oct 2009 13:09:36 +0000 http://leanblog.bigbigdesign.net/2009/10/no-rx-for-lean/#comment-5613 I couldn't agree more. Lean is about teaching how to think not providing solutions. The concept of one size fits all does not apply. I couldn't agree more. Lean is about teaching how to think not providing solutions. The concept of one size fits all does not apply.

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