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	<title>Comments on: Lean *is* About Quality, Folks</title>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
		<link>http://www.leanblog.org/2008/03/lean-is-about-quality-folks/#comment-3286</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 04:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having continuous improvement camps that are tool-centric (lean vs. sigma vs. toc vs. tqm) is pointless. This is like a having a war between Vermont and New Hampshire. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;(we would kick NH butt!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having continuous improvement camps that are tool-centric (lean vs. sigma vs. toc vs. tqm) is pointless. This is like a having a war between Vermont and New Hampshire. </p>
<p>(we would kick NH butt!)</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Graban</title>
		<link>http://www.leanblog.org/2008/03/lean-is-about-quality-folks/#comment-3279</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Graban</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 14:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To 3/15 anonymous: You&#039;re absolutely right, &quot;quality&quot; in terms of &quot;zero defects&quot; might not be enough. That&#039;s why we need customer focus to make sure we&#039;re building products and providing services that customers want and need, not just be inwardly focused on zero defects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To 3/15 anonymous: You&#8217;re absolutely right, &#8220;quality&#8221; in terms of &#8220;zero defects&#8221; might not be enough. That&#8217;s why we need customer focus to make sure we&#8217;re building products and providing services that customers want and need, not just be inwardly focused on zero defects.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.leanblog.org/2008/03/lean-is-about-quality-folks/#comment-3278</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 22:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deming also said you can have zero defects and still go out of business....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deming also said you can have zero defects and still go out of business&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.leanblog.org/2008/03/lean-is-about-quality-folks/#comment-3270</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 00:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No. I won&#039;t think of Lean that way!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;People have to be real careful who they&#039;re getting their &quot;lean&quot; advice from...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No. I won&#8217;t think of Lean that way!</p>
<p>People have to be real careful who they&#8217;re getting their &#8220;lean&#8221; advice from&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Islands Innovation</title>
		<link>http://www.leanblog.org/2008/03/lean-is-about-quality-folks/#comment-3269</link>
		<dc:creator>Islands Innovation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree Lean isn&#039;t about Quality Control, which to me implies the QC Inspector at the end of the line that throws out all the bad parts.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Lean is about, as Mark mentions, quality at the source...people innovating creative ways to put the QC Inspector out of a job!  And we all know the QATS approach is much more cost effective...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree Lean isn&#8217;t about Quality Control, which to me implies the QC Inspector at the end of the line that throws out all the bad parts.  </p>
<p>Lean is about, as Mark mentions, quality at the source&#8230;people innovating creative ways to put the QC Inspector out of a job!  And we all know the QATS approach is much more cost effective&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie Flinchbaugh</title>
		<link>http://www.leanblog.org/2008/03/lean-is-about-quality-folks/#comment-3267</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamie Flinchbaugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen!</p>
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