Comments on: Suboptimizing the New NHL Uniforms? http://www.leanblog.org/2007/09/suboptimizing-new-nhl-uniforms/ Mark Graban's leanblog.org - Lean Healthcare, Lean Thinking, Lean Manufacturing, Toyota Production System Thu, 09 Feb 2012 22:59:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Welcome, Uni Watch Visitors — Lean Blog http://www.leanblog.org/2007/09/suboptimizing-new-nhl-uniforms/#comment-22857 Welcome, Uni Watch Visitors — Lean Blog Thu, 28 Jul 2011 03:39:25 +0000 http://leanblog.bigbigdesign.net/2007/09/suboptimizing-the-new-nhl-uniforms/#comment-22857 [...] by Mark Graban on September 25, 2007 · 0 comments Welcome to those readers from UniWatchBlog.com. The post about NHL uniforms is here. [...] [...] by Mark Graban on September 25, 2007 · 0 comments Welcome to those readers from UniWatchBlog.com. The post about NHL uniforms is here. [...]

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]]> By: Mark Graban http://www.leanblog.org/2007/09/suboptimizing-new-nhl-uniforms/#comment-2606 Mark Graban Wed, 26 Sep 2007 18:45:00 +0000 http://leanblog.bigbigdesign.net/2007/09/suboptimizing-the-new-nhl-uniforms/#comment-2606 Thanks, I was hoping you would chime inn Kathleen!! Thanks, I was hoping you would chime inn Kathleen!!

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]]> By: Kathleen Fasanella http://www.leanblog.org/2007/09/suboptimizing-new-nhl-uniforms/#comment-2602 Kathleen Fasanella Wed, 26 Sep 2007 14:48:00 +0000 http://leanblog.bigbigdesign.net/2007/09/suboptimizing-the-new-nhl-uniforms/#comment-2602 <i>The new cuts of the uniform have necessitated some design changes, including the Stars (who had great old uniforms with the star design). Since the new uniforms have all sorts of moisture-wicking panels, the old design wouldn't work, they say, so we get this new boring design. </i><br/><br/>Playing devil's advocate, I'll try to be brief. There's several things going on with the old/new design. First, the original stars shirt doesn't have a set in sleeve. It is in effect, what we'd call a modified raglan which forms a "T" shape with straight arms. The new design looks like it has a set in sleeve which forms a "T" with droopy arms. Sewing wise, it's a lot easier to sew the star shape on the T with straight arms. However, the latter will never fit as well as the T with droopy arms (set in sleeve). <br/><br/>It is still possible to sew that star shape on the droopy T shape (new design with set in sleeves) but the process and method to do this is a *radical* departure from the process used in athletic apparel. The method is not known in that milleu. Actually, it's not well known period; it's a "trade secret" as it were. In defense of the manufacturer, if the job to put the star on the new jersey were my job, I don't know how effectively it could be done. Because these new fibers are even flimsier than existing fabrications, elements of structural integrity are required to render the process (fusing). This requires new additional equipment, processing and training. I don't know that they'd find it cost effective for just this job. Were it my money, I'd go for it. Learning the aforementioned process permits a dramatically expanded range of design possibilities for future client work. The new cuts of the uniform have necessitated some design changes, including the Stars (who had great old uniforms with the star design). Since the new uniforms have all sorts of moisture-wicking panels, the old design wouldn’t work, they say, so we get this new boring design.

Playing devil’s advocate, I’ll try to be brief. There’s several things going on with the old/new design. First, the original stars shirt doesn’t have a set in sleeve. It is in effect, what we’d call a modified raglan which forms a “T” shape with straight arms. The new design looks like it has a set in sleeve which forms a “T” with droopy arms. Sewing wise, it’s a lot easier to sew the star shape on the T with straight arms. However, the latter will never fit as well as the T with droopy arms (set in sleeve).

It is still possible to sew that star shape on the droopy T shape (new design with set in sleeves) but the process and method to do this is a *radical* departure from the process used in athletic apparel. The method is not known in that milleu. Actually, it’s not well known period; it’s a “trade secret” as it were. In defense of the manufacturer, if the job to put the star on the new jersey were my job, I don’t know how effectively it could be done. Because these new fibers are even flimsier than existing fabrications, elements of structural integrity are required to render the process (fusing). This requires new additional equipment, processing and training. I don’t know that they’d find it cost effective for just this job. Were it my money, I’d go for it. Learning the aforementioned process permits a dramatically expanded range of design possibilities for future client work.

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]]> By: Dean Bliss http://www.leanblog.org/2007/09/suboptimizing-new-nhl-uniforms/#comment-2599 Dean Bliss Tue, 25 Sep 2007 19:59:00 +0000 http://leanblog.bigbigdesign.net/2007/09/suboptimizing-the-new-nhl-uniforms/#comment-2599 It does sound an awful lot like the NBA "new basketball" story. Why can't the leadership in these leagues LISTEN TO THE USER/CUSTOMER before making these changes????? It's stunning, the lack of foresight. It does sound an awful lot like the NBA “new basketball” story. Why can’t the leadership in these leagues LISTEN TO THE USER/CUSTOMER before making these changes????? It’s stunning, the lack of foresight.

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]]> By: Joe Wilson http://www.leanblog.org/2007/09/suboptimizing-new-nhl-uniforms/#comment-2598 Joe Wilson Tue, 25 Sep 2007 14:38:00 +0000 http://leanblog.bigbigdesign.net/2007/09/suboptimizing-the-new-nhl-uniforms/#comment-2598 Wow, a fellow UniWatch Reader. <br/><br/>I thought I clicked on the wrong Bookmarked site this morning when I saw the article. The LeanBlog and UniWatch Blog are usually morning musts for me.<br/><br/>I have to admit thinking pretty much what you have written as I read the articles. Wow, a fellow UniWatch Reader.

I thought I clicked on the wrong Bookmarked site this morning when I saw the article. The LeanBlog and UniWatch Blog are usually morning musts for me.

I have to admit thinking pretty much what you have written as I read the articles.

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