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		<title>By: Ramnath Rangaswamy</title>
		<link>http://www.leanblog.org/2007/07/p-and-target-pricing/#comment-2310</link>
		<dc:creator>Ramnath Rangaswamy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An emerging marker perspective from India.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;In emerging markets, (i)coinage and (ii) target pricing are concepts that all marketers and businesses must keep in mid if they have to succeed.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Coinage is relevant to the FMCG [ Fast Moving Consumer Goods] category. Target pricing is relevant across categories.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Small cash outlay packs- sachets, single use packs- are big volumes in emerging markets. Pricing, of small cash outlay packs, is a key driver of volumes. And coinage is a big factor in determining the pricing.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;For example, in India, sachets or single use packs have to be priced at Re 1.00 [ 2.5cents], Rs 2.00, Rs 3.00 and so on. A pricing of Re 1.50 will cause dissonance among consumers because consumers would end up paying Rs 2.00 for the Re 1.50 pack. This is because coins of Re0.50 are scarce. There have been instances when volumes of a sku dropped or remained flat when price was decreased from Rs 2.00 to Re 1.50!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;In emerging markets target pricing is seen across categories- shampoos, face creams, refrigerators, air-conditioners, cars, trucks, motorcycles.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;TATA MOTORS www.tatamotors.com is an expert at target pricing. They are now developing a car for the Indian markets at US$ 2500. They had earlier developed the Indica [ a hatchback, which sells close to 120000 units a year], ACE [ a 1 tonne van] and Novus all very successful vehicles primarily because of their ‘target pricing’ approach.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;HCL, an Indian Computer Company has begun selling &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.hindu.com/2005/08/02/stories/2005080204541700.htm&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a US$200 desktop.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An emerging marker perspective from India.</p>
<p>In emerging markets, (i)coinage and (ii) target pricing are concepts that all marketers and businesses must keep in mid if they have to succeed.</p>
<p>Coinage is relevant to the FMCG [ Fast Moving Consumer Goods] category. Target pricing is relevant across categories.</p>
<p>Small cash outlay packs- sachets, single use packs- are big volumes in emerging markets. Pricing, of small cash outlay packs, is a key driver of volumes. And coinage is a big factor in determining the pricing.</p>
<p>For example, in India, sachets or single use packs have to be priced at Re 1.00 [ 2.5cents], Rs 2.00, Rs 3.00 and so on. A pricing of Re 1.50 will cause dissonance among consumers because consumers would end up paying Rs 2.00 for the Re 1.50 pack. This is because coins of Re0.50 are scarce. There have been instances when volumes of a sku dropped or remained flat when price was decreased from Rs 2.00 to Re 1.50!</p>
<p>In emerging markets target pricing is seen across categories- shampoos, face creams, refrigerators, air-conditioners, cars, trucks, motorcycles.</p>
<p>TATA MOTORS <a href="http://www.tatamotors.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.tatamotors.com</a> is an expert at target pricing. They are now developing a car for the Indian markets at US$ 2500. They had earlier developed the Indica [ a hatchback, which sells close to 120000 units a year], ACE [ a 1 tonne van] and Novus all very successful vehicles primarily because of their ‘target pricing’ approach.</p>
<p>HCL, an Indian Computer Company has begun selling <a HREF="http://www.hindu.com/2005/08/02/stories/2005080204541700.htm" REL="nofollow">a US$200 desktop.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark Graban</title>
		<link>http://www.leanblog.org/2007/07/p-and-target-pricing/#comment-2274</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Graban</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 18:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point, anonymous.  I should have talked more about Quality, I&#039;m glad you brought it up.  I think there&#039;s a fine line between cheapening the product and taking out things the customer doesn&#039;t value.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;P&amp;G says they are taking this into account (&quot;you can&#039;t cheat the customer&quot;), but they also say:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&quot;To hold down the cost of its Ace Natural detergent, used to hand-wash clothes, P&amp;G reduced the amount of enzymes in the product. The result: a product that costs a peso less than regular Ace and is gentler on skin.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&quot;Gentler on skin&quot; sounds like a very positive spin on the product having less cleaning power.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Ultimately, the customers have choice.  Is P&amp;G&#039;s 10 peso detergent better than the competitors or not?  Meeting the target price with a lousy product won&#039;t be a good strategy for anyone.  I should have emphasized that more for people without WSJ access.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point, anonymous.  I should have talked more about Quality, I&#8217;m glad you brought it up.  I think there&#8217;s a fine line between cheapening the product and taking out things the customer doesn&#8217;t value.</p>
<p>P&#038;G says they are taking this into account (&#8220;you can&#8217;t cheat the customer&#8221;), but they also say:</p>
<p>&#8220;To hold down the cost of its Ace Natural detergent, used to hand-wash clothes, P&#038;G reduced the amount of enzymes in the product. The result: a product that costs a peso less than regular Ace and is gentler on skin.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Gentler on skin&#8221; sounds like a very positive spin on the product having less cleaning power.</p>
<p>Ultimately, the customers have choice.  Is P&#038;G&#8217;s 10 peso detergent better than the competitors or not?  Meeting the target price with a lousy product won&#8217;t be a good strategy for anyone.  I should have emphasized that more for people without WSJ access.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 18:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I am not sure I follow your last remark about P&amp;G realizes the importance of quality. Enzymes are expensive, but are still put in almost all brands of detergents as they improve performance. Of course they have to be pragmatic about it, and the detergent will work - just not as good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark,</p>
<p>I am not sure I follow your last remark about P&#038;G realizes the importance of quality. Enzymes are expensive, but are still put in almost all brands of detergents as they improve performance. Of course they have to be pragmatic about it, and the detergent will work &#8211; just not as good.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Abilla</title>
		<link>http://www.leanblog.org/2007/07/p-and-target-pricing/#comment-2272</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete Abilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;This is good to see other firms following this pricing worldview.  It&#039;s important to point out, though, that Milton Friedman actually argued strongly for this type of pricing in his papers on Price Theory.  I&#039;m not sure how Value Engineering came about, but I imagine its roots can be found Friedman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark,</p>
<p>This is good to see other firms following this pricing worldview.  It&#8217;s important to point out, though, that Milton Friedman actually argued strongly for this type of pricing in his papers on Price Theory.  I&#8217;m not sure how Value Engineering came about, but I imagine its roots can be found Friedman.</p>
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