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	<title>Comments on: Seth Godin Got &quot;Kanban&quot; Wrong</title>
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		<title>By: Thinking is For Factories, Too — Lean Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.leanblog.org/2007/04/seth-godin-got-kanban-wrong/#comment-22876</link>
		<dc:creator>Thinking is For Factories, Too — Lean Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 03:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I really like Seth Godin&#8217;s blog&#8230; but when he steps into &#8220;Lean&#8221; territory, he tends to be wrong (as he was last year). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I really like Seth Godin&#8217;s blog&#8230; but when he steps into &#8220;Lean&#8221; territory, he tends to be wrong (as he was last year). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Seth Godin Catches All Manufacturers, Unfairly, in his &#8220;Factory Thinking&#8221; Net — Lean Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seth Godin Catches All Manufacturers, Unfairly, in his &#8220;Factory Thinking&#8221; Net — Lean Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Oct 2010 09:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a service or product that delights and wows your customers. He’s mentioned Lean before (and gotten it somewhat wrong at times) and now he’s written a piece that, unfortunately, defames factories with a broad brush [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a service or product that delights and wows your customers. He’s mentioned Lean before (and gotten it somewhat wrong at times) and now he’s written a piece that, unfortunately, defames factories with a broad brush [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Maciej</title>
		<link>http://www.leanblog.org/2007/04/seth-godin-got-kanban-wrong/#comment-1898</link>
		<dc:creator>Maciej</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 22:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My intro marketing textbook from university speaks rather briefly on the topic, but essentially seems to equate &quot;Total Quality Management&quot; &quot;Just-In-Time&quot; and &quot;Kanban&quot; as all meaning the same. It does not mention Six Sigma, Lean, etc. I don&#039;t know if this is representative of all marketing knowledge out there, but it doesn&#039;t surprise me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My intro marketing textbook from university speaks rather briefly on the topic, but essentially seems to equate &#8220;Total Quality Management&#8221; &#8220;Just-In-Time&#8221; and &#8220;Kanban&#8221; as all meaning the same. It does not mention Six Sigma, Lean, etc. I don&#8217;t know if this is representative of all marketing knowledge out there, but it doesn&#8217;t surprise me.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Graban</title>
		<link>http://www.leanblog.org/2007/04/seth-godin-got-kanban-wrong/#comment-1878</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Graban</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2007 20:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If anyone doesn&#039;t like the Kanban explanation on Wikipedia, you&#039;re free to improve it.  That would be &quot;kaizen&quot; in action, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If anyone doesn&#8217;t like the Kanban explanation on Wikipedia, you&#8217;re free to improve it.  That would be &#8220;kaizen&#8221; in action, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Keldsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Keldsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2007 21:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, Rob and Mike - Whoops, I fell into the trap as well. Posted a correction on my blog moments ago!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I presume that Seth Godin doesn&#039;t allow direct comments on his blog because his site is high profile and would be a massive blog spam magnet. Trackbacks take a bit more work on the spamming front, so less likely to overwhelm. Hopefully I have not angered the spam gods (devils?) by pointing this out now! ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, Rob and Mike &#8211; Whoops, I fell into the trap as well. Posted a correction on my blog moments ago!</p>
<p>I presume that Seth Godin doesn&#8217;t allow direct comments on his blog because his site is high profile and would be a massive blog spam magnet. Trackbacks take a bit more work on the spamming front, so less likely to overwhelm. Hopefully I have not angered the spam gods (devils?) by pointing this out now! ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Gardner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2007 19:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad to see I was not the only one to take Mr. Godin to task for this.  (http://tpmlog.blogspot.com).  If you follow his highlighted kanban link you get the Wikipedia definition, which is none too clear, either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad to see I was not the only one to take Mr. Godin to task for this.  (<a href="http://tpmlog.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://tpmlog.blogspot.com</a>).  If you follow his highlighted kanban link you get the Wikipedia definition, which is none too clear, either.</p>
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		<title>By: robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2007 15:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark - I agree with you 100%. I posted about this earlier today here:  http://tinyurl.com/2yxcx5&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Seth clearly needs a Lean 101 class before confusing the entire issue. Lean implementation is hard enough without half-truths being circulated.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Rob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark &#8211; I agree with you 100%. I posted about this earlier today here:  <a href="http://tinyurl.com/2yxcx5" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/2yxcx5</a></p>
<p>Seth clearly needs a Lean 101 class before confusing the entire issue. Lean implementation is hard enough without half-truths being circulated.</p>
<p>Rob</p>
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