Comments on: Book Review +: Profit Beyond Measure http://www.leanblog.org/2007/01/book-review-profit-beyond-measure/ Mark Graban's leanblog.org - Lean Healthcare, Lean Thinking, Lean Manufacturing, Toyota Production System Thu, 09 Feb 2012 22:59:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jamie Flinchbaugh http://www.leanblog.org/2007/01/book-review-profit-beyond-measure/#comment-1442 Jamie Flinchbaugh Wed, 03 Jan 2007 01:03:00 +0000 http://leanblog.bigbigdesign.net/2007/01/book-review-profit-beyond-measure/#comment-1442 I know Tom. We've met and talked a few times. I wish I knew him better - he's a great guy.<br /><br />He really changed a lot of people's thinking with the book Relevance Lost in '87 I think, which he wrote with Robert Kaplan. From there, they took very different paths. Kaplan went in search of better measurement tools, Johnson went in search of how to manage living systems. Johnson is much more influenced by Peter Senge, Deming and of course Toyota. The two have taken several pot-shots at each other over the years. I was giving a big speech on lean accounting and the American Accounting Assocation when Kaplan was receiving the lifetime achievement award. Knowing Johnson's speech, he said in his speech (which was before mine) that we didn't need less accounting, we needed more value. I generally agreed so it was a good lead-in for my speech. <br /><br />Johnson is a true thought-leader and a really nice guy. He doesn't give a lot of talks anymore, in part because he's tired of talking until he's blue in the face without people listening. Hopefully, more will listen - he's worth hearing. I know Tom. We’ve met and talked a few times. I wish I knew him better – he’s a great guy.

He really changed a lot of people’s thinking with the book Relevance Lost in ’87 I think, which he wrote with Robert Kaplan. From there, they took very different paths. Kaplan went in search of better measurement tools, Johnson went in search of how to manage living systems. Johnson is much more influenced by Peter Senge, Deming and of course Toyota. The two have taken several pot-shots at each other over the years. I was giving a big speech on lean accounting and the American Accounting Assocation when Kaplan was receiving the lifetime achievement award. Knowing Johnson’s speech, he said in his speech (which was before mine) that we didn’t need less accounting, we needed more value. I generally agreed so it was a good lead-in for my speech.

Johnson is a true thought-leader and a really nice guy. He doesn’t give a lot of talks anymore, in part because he’s tired of talking until he’s blue in the face without people listening. Hopefully, more will listen – he’s worth hearing.

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]]> By: Mark Graban http://www.leanblog.org/2007/01/book-review-profit-beyond-measure/#comment-1440 Mark Graban Tue, 02 Jan 2007 21:21:00 +0000 http://leanblog.bigbigdesign.net/2007/01/book-review-profit-beyond-measure/#comment-1440 I do not have any first hand experience with Dr. Johnson other than reading his earlier book "Relevance Lost" back in 1997. I do not have any first hand experience with Dr. Johnson other than reading his earlier book “Relevance Lost” back in 1997.

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]]> By: Mark Edmondson, Lean Affiliates http://www.leanblog.org/2007/01/book-review-profit-beyond-measure/#comment-1439 Mark Edmondson, Lean Affiliates Tue, 02 Jan 2007 21:03:00 +0000 http://leanblog.bigbigdesign.net/2007/01/book-review-profit-beyond-measure/#comment-1439 Thanks for the thorough review, Jamie. I have not heard of Tom Johnson or his book before, but it sounds profound and intend to order it.<br /><br />Do Mark or you know Tom, or have worked with him? Thanks for the thorough review, Jamie. I have not heard of Tom Johnson or his book before, but it sounds profound and intend to order it.

Do Mark or you know Tom, or have worked with him?

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