Comments on: Innovation or Improvement? http://www.leanblog.org/2006/07/innovation-or-improvement/ Mark Graban's leanblog.org - Lean Healthcare, Lean Thinking, Lean Manufacturing, Toyota Production System Thu, 09 Feb 2012 15:26:57 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Robin Hanson http://www.leanblog.org/2006/07/innovation-or-improvement/#comment-762 Robin Hanson Mon, 10 Jul 2006 21:11:00 +0000 http://leanblog.bigbigdesign.net/2006/07/innovation-or-improvement/#comment-762 Thanks for the praise Jamie. I'm not the first or the best to have said things like I said - just the most prominent person this month. Thanks for the praise Jamie. I’m not the first or the best to have said things like I said – just the most prominent person this month.

Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

]]> By: Jamie Flinchbaugh http://www.leanblog.org/2006/07/innovation-or-improvement/#comment-730 Jamie Flinchbaugh Tue, 04 Jul 2006 14:16:00 +0000 http://leanblog.bigbigdesign.net/2006/07/innovation-or-improvement/#comment-730 Thanks for the link to your post and blog, curiouscat. It's also a reminder that the true value of Dr. Deming isn't just in the 14 points but in reading and studying deeper. We have enough written from him that we can probably live the "WWDD" way, or What Would Deming Do? Thanks for the link to your post and blog, curiouscat. It’s also a reminder that the true value of Dr. Deming isn’t just in the 14 points but in reading and studying deeper. We have enough written from him that we can probably live the “WWDD” way, or What Would Deming Do?

Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

]]> By: curiouscat http://www.leanblog.org/2006/07/innovation-or-improvement/#comment-729 curiouscat Tue, 04 Jul 2006 12:44:00 +0000 http://leanblog.bigbigdesign.net/2006/07/innovation-or-improvement/#comment-729 I agree the current innovation fad is way overdone. We seem to like extreme positions. But often what is needed is a complicated mix of innovation, execution, planning, customer focus, respect for people, experimenting, risk taking, process improvement...<br/><br/>I posted about the need to be <a HREF="http://management.curiouscatblog.net/2006/05/24/better-and-different/" REL="nofollow">better (results) and different (innovation)</a>. I came to the conclusion you express: better is more important - if you must choose. I agree the current innovation fad is way overdone. We seem to like extreme positions. But often what is needed is a complicated mix of innovation, execution, planning, customer focus, respect for people, experimenting, risk taking, process improvement…

I posted about the need to be better (results) and different (innovation). I came to the conclusion you express: better is more important – if you must choose.

Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

]]> By: Jamie Flinchbaugh http://www.leanblog.org/2006/07/innovation-or-improvement/#comment-728 Jamie Flinchbaugh Mon, 03 Jul 2006 20:41:00 +0000 http://leanblog.bigbigdesign.net/2006/07/innovation-or-improvement/#comment-728 Thanks for your comments Ralf, and best of luck to Germany tomorrow in the Cup semi-finals. Thanks for your comments Ralf, and best of luck to Germany tomorrow in the Cup semi-finals.

Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

]]> By: Ralf http://www.leanblog.org/2006/07/innovation-or-improvement/#comment-727 Ralf Mon, 03 Jul 2006 17:12:00 +0000 http://leanblog.bigbigdesign.net/2006/07/innovation-or-improvement/#comment-727 Jamie, you are right just having good ideas is not enough and they have to be transformed into good results.<br/><br/>Sometimes ideas are just not ripe for the circumstances, time or the views of other people and that hinders good ideas to put into gear. You have to wait for the right time or somebody at the right position who sees that positive effects of that idea and is willing to push (what an un-LEAN word;-() that forward.<br/><br/>Even at Kaizen events -as I have attended one a few weeks ago- some ideas are really difficult to transform. There must be always somebody who is the driver for implementing these ideas into real results (against all odds). So you really need people who are looking ahead are seeing the potential of the ideas giving active help.<br/><br/>Even though some things look really simple at first glance there are obstacles that appear just as you are about to go productive with your idea.<br/><br/>Anyway, without ideas that are far beyond the present state there will be no results now (just go forward step by step and you will reach the final state:-)).<br/><br/>Regards from Leipzig,<br/><br/>Ralf Jamie, you are right just having good ideas is not enough and they have to be transformed into good results.

Sometimes ideas are just not ripe for the circumstances, time or the views of other people and that hinders good ideas to put into gear. You have to wait for the right time or somebody at the right position who sees that positive effects of that idea and is willing to push (what an un-LEAN word;-() that forward.

Even at Kaizen events -as I have attended one a few weeks ago- some ideas are really difficult to transform. There must be always somebody who is the driver for implementing these ideas into real results (against all odds). So you really need people who are looking ahead are seeing the potential of the ideas giving active help.

Even though some things look really simple at first glance there are obstacles that appear just as you are about to go productive with your idea.

Anyway, without ideas that are far beyond the present state there will be no results now (just go forward step by step and you will reach the final state:-)).

Regards from Leipzig,

Ralf

Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

]]>